Sunday, October 16, 2005

Added to the Black List: Mayor Sam!

Newly added to the Blue Flypaper Black List (the nations #1 Liberal Black List):

There are so many reasons that true liberals will want to avoid Mayor Sam's Sister City. Among them:

They chose to name their blog after a man who is best known for his anti-communist, anti-Equal Rights Amendment and anti-busing opinions.

The guy is dead--so it's kind of a creepy name even if it wasn't the name of a famous white male.

If they wanted to pick a great politician to name their blog after they could have chosen Shirley Chisholm, the first black woman elected to Congress.

Mayor Sam is relentless on their unwarranted attacks on Maxine Waters--which is how I first learned of their existence. Everyone (particularly the Mayor Sam web site) has made such a big deal about her being added to a list of the "most corrupt" members of congress. Big whoopeedoo. If you look at the list you can see a number of problems with it. For one, as a victim of lifelong racism and sexism, she does not deserve to be a list with oppressive white males. Second, the "crimes" she is alleged to have committed are really about her taking care of her own family members an allowing them to use her influence to extort city contracts of a million dollars over the past several years. In some cultures this is called love and/or taking care of your young.

Finally, Mayor Sam is part of the Bear Flag League--a veritable "who's who" of crazy right wing bloggers including Independent Sources, BoxerWatch, Patterico and about another 100 or so whackos.

In short, stay away from Mayor Sam and instead spend time with this group.


At 2:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm still waiting to be blacklisted. EQUAL RIGHTS FOR LIVE JOURNALERS!

--Next to Last Samurai

At 6:49 PM, Blogger Gyrobo said...

Corrupt politicians? In THIS country? Unheard of.

At 8:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


--Won't give up till
I'm blacklisted,

The Next to Last Samurai

At 9:00 PM, Blogger Cabe said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

At 9:51 PM, Blogger Cabe said...

System of a Down, Marilyn Manson, Green Day, Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein,

If you love these men...
You're a socialist.

At 12:27 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

And since when is socialism bad?

As far as I'm concerned, "free market" just means no taxes for the super wealthy.

NTLS: get off of Live Journal. Time to step up sister.

At 3:21 AM, Blogger fatman said...

Will someone please tell me what the problem is with Live Journal???!!!

At 6:00 AM, Blogger Cabe said...

"...since when is socialism bad?"

Since FDR Americanized it.

Less Self Responsibility, Big Government.

Hillary Clinton:
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Viva La sister?


At 8:43 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

Government does such great things...schools, housing, welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc. so why is "big" government good? It seems to me that the bigger government is the more services that they can provide. I like big government.

Conversely, businesses do better when they are small. With whom would you rather do business? The small corner grocer or Walmart? The little corner free trade coffee house or Starbucks? The little corner bookstore or Borders? It seems that the smaller the business the better for all.

Why is this hard to comprehend or controversial?

PS. Don't forget that FDR was behind winning WWII so I'd be careful saying bad things about him. He also got us out of the depression that Hoover and the Republicans caused.

At 10:54 AM, Blogger Mayor Sam said...

I love it! Thank you True Blue! You make the socialist, commie pinkos very proud!

At 1:02 PM, Blogger Wanderlust said...

What's a little corruption amongst the kittydipper crowd?

I love this "if you have a slit, you MUST be a victim" meme she puts out (pardon the pun) - makes me almost want to get one myself.

A victim, that is...

/maniacal laughter

At 1:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah. What IS wrong with Live Journal? Fatman and I are both mystified.


--Next to Last Samurai

At 2:38 PM, Blogger Cabe said...


Social Security at age 20.

At 2:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FDR was behing winning WWII...

I thought Socialists and Liberals believe no war is justified. Only Republican Wars?

At 4:59 PM, Blogger Wanderlust said...

Regarding the comment above:

I thought Socialists and Liberals believe no war is justified. Only Republican Wars?

Back in the days of FDR, Truman, and Kennedy, even though those Presidents had ideas regarding the size of government, etc. that differed from fiscal conservatives, they were on the same page regarding US foreign policy and defense of its interests in the world.

No one that I've read here, or in other "conservative" blogs such as Wizbang, Little Green Footballs, or In From The Cold, has suggested that a Democratic President, or a "liberal", as such, would shy away from defending American foreign policy interests.

What many of us HAVE suggested, however, is that there has been a shift on the Left over the past four decades to where those who believe the UN should solve everything do so at the expense of US foreign policy interests, and even at the expense of abrogating national sovereignty away - and that, to entities in the world that systemically fail to care about human rights in their own countries, groups, or religions.

So, to give an example based on your silly comment, Kennedy (Democrat) stared down the USSR in 1961, even to the brink of a nuclear exchange between the powers. He recognized that there came a time when defending US interests meant that one had to choose between negotiation or display of, and preparation to use, miliatary force.

Ten years or so later, however, Kerry bargained with a puppet regime of the USSR for a "peace" that, beyond its pretty word, abrogated US policy at the time (fighting a worldview that stomped on national human rights to set up puppet regimes that spread a certain political doctrine, which was a declared enemy of the United States). And Kerry did this action (negotiating) while it was treasonous for him to do so. His actions cost the lives of thousands of American servicement who were MIA, most of whom have never been found or accounted for, thirty years after the fact.

I may not agree with the politics of an FDR or JFK (the real one, not the Heinz-funded one), but I do agree that I would trust them to stand up and defend US interests in the world.

I cannot say the same for a Clinton, and definitely not for a Kerry, Dean, or other national Democratic political figures of late.

At 5:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have." - President Gerald Ford

At 10:53 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

"Kennedy (Democrat) stared down the USSR in 1961, even to the brink of a nuclear exchange between the powers."

Unfortunately as idealistic as JFK was, he simply did not have the brains or the capabilities of his younger brother Teddy. Teddy was the heart, soul, anbd brains of that family and if he had been President during the Cuban Missle Crisis, it would not have been a crisis. I wouldn't be surprised if Teddy was giving his older brother tips all through that time.

The problem I have with the concept of National "Defense" is that we as a country meddle and push people and when they respond we say we are just protecting our interests.

For example, we choke off North Korea and institute a famine there. When they start counterfeiting U.S. currency to be able to buy food for their young we call them criminals.

I'm all for national defense but it shouldn't be use to attack people. Furthermore, defense should be proactive with us giving aid that is enough give the people of the world (e.g., Africa, Asia, etc.) health care, jobs, unions, etc. If we did this instead of building bombs, I think you'd see us with a much safer country which is the idea of national defense isn't it?

At 10:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maxine Waters had to work hard to make that list. It takes a lot to beat Republicans at their own game.

At 10:59 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

There is a big difference. Maxine Waters behavior can be excused. You can't say that about the wealthy, white males on the list.

At 11:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, liberals, when will you learn: we gots an army to kill stuff. The only way to defend a country is to actively ruin your own nation's reputation, and hire as many cronies to do your bidding as possible. Every student of history knows that "diplomacy" is all b.s., just like my dad said before he kicked me out of the house at 16 for not working two jobs and paying his rent. I learned how to take care of myself on my own because I am a self made man down here at AutoKleen. I don't have any health care at this job, but what I earn I keep and spend on bullets. That's the American Way. None of this "cooperation", "family", "help other people" bull.

At 11:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maxine Waters is the result of affirmative action. These people would have never made it this far without the nanny state taking my hard earned tax dollars and dumping it into the wasteland ghettos of America.

No free rides! Take her off the list until she earns the right to be on there!

At 10:09 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

I don't believe that at all. If we had President Gore like we were supposed to we wouldn't be in Iraq or preparing to invade Iran. We wouldn't be having troubles in North Korea.

Do not let our current militaristic view of the world skew you away from the power of diplomacy. Just look at the UN!

At 12:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Liberal True Blue,

You have to understand how rapacious these other people are. Koreans are just waiting to attack us. And the Iraqis? Hello, do all those car bombs mean nothing to you? Better there than here.

We have to defend ourselves by ignoring all other rational actions as a nation and simply ATTACK EVERYONE, NOW.

Al Gore didn't have the stomach. Thank GOD that GWB is here to protect the U.S. from all of these American-blood-thristy terrorists.

You are guilty of treason in my eyes. Because treason is not standing up for the Commander in Chief no matter what.

At 1:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wanderlust, I have to agree with what you have said. I may not have agreed with the politics of those men, but they are better than ANYTHING the democRATic party has put up lately.

I still am simply flabbergasted, Blue, that you can actually believe the things that you write. The best part of Ted Kennedy ran down Joe's leg just after he rolled off Rose. And what was left was lost in Chappaquidick with Mary Joe.

And as for national defense...would you be comfortable being run by say...North Korea? Do you have any clue what men and women have been fighting and dying for over the past two hundred years? So you can sit here and spout off.

You aught to keep that the back of your wee little mind when you are trying to turn this country over to another power.

You barking moobat.

At 1:34 PM, Blogger Wanderlust said...

BlueBabe, I think I've figured out why you have such a problem dealing with issues like corruption, graft, and your penchant for blindly following Teddy Boy, Kerry, and the UN:

* Do you support yourself, or do your parents pay for your college tuition, board, clothing, etc.?

* If you support yourself, how much of your annual salary is taken away from you to pay local, state, and federal taxes (income taxes, sales taxes, and municipal fees such as automobile registration)?

* Do you have your own bank account?

* What percentage of your income do you give each year to charitable organizations, or to persons in need?

If you are living on your parents' checkbook, you likely won't have the first clue of all the things I've asked, or what the context of those questions is. After all, you have a slit, so therefore you are a victim, and you have a license to make up for your victim status by engaging in all manner of thoughs and deeds others would consider unfair - because since you are a victim, well, the impact of your deeds on others simply can't be your own fault.

However, if you do work and support yourself, consider this: how would you feel if, after barely being able to support yourself on your current salary, government changed the tax laws to raise taxes on your earnings, causing you to become unable to pay each month's expenses?

Would you be happy about it?

Would being taxed more justify behavior on your part to make up the financial difference by other, less legal means, than that of working legally?

What if those tax dollars were given to illegal immigrants, so that they could afford to live in your town, while you don't have enough money to live?

How would you handle your government-imposed poverty?

What if you didn't qualify for federal programs to "help" you get through your hard times financially, because those programs were targeted at people earning less money, before taxes, than you do, regardless of whether they have ever tried to improve themselves so that they could earn higher wages?

If you decided to go into business for yourself, how would you feel if the government decided that you should not make any profits on your business, because profits should go to people who have no means to support themselves?

What if you could no longer afford designer-label clothing because of having no money left over to buy the things you like, after taxes?

Notice even your hero Kerry pays the bare minimum tax that is required of him, and not a dollar more. You can search for this information on Google, and it will be there.

Makes me almost want to start a blog, so you will blacklist me, too...

At 1:38 PM, Blogger Wanderlust said...

One thing I do agree with you on, BlueBabe: bring labor unions to North Korea, and fast.

The moment that happens, we won't have anything to worry about anymore - the labor unions will try to outdo Kim Jong Il for corruption, and nothing will get built, especially nuclear weapons infrastructure.

You can give them Teddy Boy while you are at it. Ditto to Kerry, Dean, and Hillary.

Whatever threat NK posed to the US will be neutralized immediately by inaction, and removed when the Islamofascists in the region steamroll them.

At 2:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear other readers who do not get the joke:

"True Blue" is a right winger. This site is a parody of liberal ideas like human rights, equal protection, free trade, etc.

This is a web-site set up by a troll. It's only purpose is to throw up straw-man "liberal" arguments.

So take your sanctimonious right wing crap over to Red State.

At 2:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wanderlust, if you decide to start a blog, let the rest of us (or at least me) know. I do enjoy the way you think.

Blue, you are STILL a barking moonbat.

At 2:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


You are a doddering fool. If you spent less time hating "the government", and more time learning about how it works you wouldn't be so angry at insane pretend liberals like True Blue.

"The governement" covers your punk ass more than you think. I'd love to know your story, because being such a self-made man, you never had to rely on anyone to support yourself. I am sure you can come up with something that will amaze us all.

Maxine Waters of course belongs on a list of corrupt politicians. You are such a screwball, you think that True Blue would suspend all reason and sense in service of being a liberal, and excuse her for her transgressions because of her ethnicity.

True Blue is baiting you, and you are a big enough ass clown to fall for it.

At 6:53 PM, Blogger Gyrobo said...

Conservative, liberal... it won't matter when the aliens incinerate the Earth.

At 8:39 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Wow. Lot's of things to respond to.

Who Cares?: You are a troll and your arguments are tired and unoriginal. Why is it that neocons like you treat any opinion different than their own as a joke. I think you are from Red State and this is just your way of plugging your lame site.

Wanderlust: If you read my posts you know that I work full time and then some. Yes I pay taxes and if it meant free health care, better social security, a stronger United Nations. Fortunately I don't have to because if we just tax the super wealthy we can do this and more

I donate a great amount of time and percentage of my income to charity. I've done and supported Breast Cancer walks and proudly wear my pink rubber wristband proudly.

As for illegal aliens, they wouldn't be illegal if we opened up our borders. They'd happily pay taxes if we let them become citizens and give them the full benefits of doing so. They'd pay even more taxes if we got them in unions and let them work for real wages.

At 10:24 PM, Blogger fatman said...

Who cares?! said:

"Dear other readers who do not get the joke:

"True Blue" is a right winger. This site is a parody of liberal ideas like human rights, equal protection, free trade, etc.

This is a web-site set up by a troll. It's only purpose is to throw up straw-man "liberal" arguments.

So take your sanctimonious right wing crap over to Red State."



You are a doddering fool. If you spent less time hating "the government", and more time learning about how it works you wouldn't be so angry at insane pretend liberals like True Blue.

"The governement" covers your punk ass more than you think. I'd love to know your story, because being such a self-made man, you never had to rely on anyone to support yourself. I am sure you can come up with something that will amaze us all.

Maxine Waters of course belongs on a list of corrupt politicians. You are such a screwball, you think that True Blue would suspend all reason and sense in service of being a liberal, and excuse her for her transgressions because of her ethnicity.

True Blue is baiting you, and you are a big enough ass clown to fall for it."

Is that you, Joser the Hoser? Where have you been, amigo? Haven't seen any comments from you over at Wizbang lately. What's the matter? You get tired of all the verbal ass-kickings you took over there, so you came here looking for easier pickings? Well, just pull up a chair and get comfy. Picking on True Blue was getting a little old, but now that you're here, that should liven things up again.

Btw, how did you like the new nickname I gave you? I must admit, you were right; Joser-rhymes-with-loser just didn't scan.

At 10:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


You are too pathetic to imagine. What does semi-skilled mean? I mean, how hard can it be to eat that jelly donut? But to only be able to collect government checks and semi-eat it? Dude, you are sad. It is prolly from listening to so much Skynrd.

Seriously though, bubba, this is a total troll site. TrueBlue is so NOT a left-winger, it's sad.

If you want to have a go, I am down. But your are goingto get you high blood pressure, SSI collecting, XXL, butt handed to you.

At 11:41 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Who Cares?

If you want to argue fine but don't attack people of size because of their physcial disabilities. It's been proven that overweight is caused by glandular issues not to mention marketing by food companies and the additives they put in. Your attacks are cruel and inappropriate.

Make all of the political arguments you can muster but no racism, sexism, nationalism, etc. on this site.


At 12:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sexism?? You have the audacity to say something about sexism and spell womAn as womyn? Talk about a hypocrite...

And there is nothing wrong with black people...or chinks, wops, yellow, red or any other color/nationality. I am an open minded individual.

Can I have my black list now?

You barking moonbat.

At 1:09 AM, Blogger Wanderlust said...


A real-time blog-comment smackfest, courtesy of our raving "whocares?!"...bring it on, baby :)

I too was fooled for a moment into whocares?! "logic" regarding our dearest BlueBabe.

For a moment. A fleeting, new-york-second kind of moment.

Then, I had a revelation - the complimentary prods of Occam's Razor and KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid).

For one, BlueBabe IS consistent in her abject cluelessness. Just read her posts over the last few months for UNDENIABLE proof. On top of that, anyone who has scrolled through the protest photos at LGF Operative Zombie's SF/Berkley area photo site would understand that there really ARE people who are just as clueless as the BlueBabe (for absolute, undeniable proof, see Zombie's photo essay of the Ward Churchill speech at the
Bay Area Anarchist Bookfair
; just scroll down the page until you get to the 6th photo from the top. Proof UNDENIABLE, I swear it!)

All that being said, BlueBabe really should answer for her hero Kerry's
personal tax avoidance behavior
, as chronicled in none other than that bastion of Masshole Liberalism, the Boston Globe.

A lesson for you, BlueBabe, since you don't seem to attend too many economics classes: a "tax shelter" is any financial instrument or investment, used by very, very rich people (the kind that YOU want to pay for everything under the sun), to AVOID paying personal income taxes. These "tax shelters" are investments in companies which incorporate themselves in tax-free countries such as Lichenstein or the Grand Cayman Islands. Our man Kerry, who espouses the "rich" being the ones to pay for everything, hides his own wealth away from the Taxman.

Just do as I say, and ignore what I do. I'm better than you. MoveOn(TM), nothing to see here...

BlueBabe, wanna bet that every one of your so-called "heroes" who earn more than $200,000/year engage in similar behavior?

I'm sure that whocares?! could take the bait...

At 1:38 AM, Blogger fatman said...

Who Cares?! said


You are too pathetic to imagine. What does semi-skilled mean?"
It means I drove a wrecker and handled minor repairs on the road. I was not a full-fledged mechanic.

"I mean, how hard can it be to eat that jelly donut?" Very hard, if, like me, you prefer custard filled instead.

"But to only be able to collect government checks and semi-eat it? Dude, you are sad. It is prolly from listening to so much Skynrd." I know. I had a deprived childhood. Not a decent mariachi band within five hundred miles.

"Seriously though, bubba, this is a total troll site. TrueBlue is so NOT a left-winger, it's sad." You're just jealous cause she gets more hits and repeat traffic than "Poetry Hell" ever did.

"If you want to have a go, I am down. But your are goingto get you high blood pressure, SSI collecting, XXL, butt handed to you." If you want to play, you know where to find me.

At 9:12 AM, Blogger True Blue said...


John Kerry is compling with the tax laws that the Republicans have instituted so are all of the celebrities and other wealthy liberals. However, if they are given the chance they want to raise taxes and eliminate the loopholes. That is not contradictory, it is fair and just.

Don't blame them for following the law, blame the people who made the bad laws to begin with and praise the people who want to change them.

If the last two elections hadn't been stolen through fraud, then our wealthy would be paying higher taxes (e.g., their "fair" share) and we would have a much stronger economy. I mean what good does this money do when it is sitting in foreign tax shelters instead of going to the people who need it?

At 3:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fatman and I are still waiting to find out what the deal is with Live Journal.


--Next to Last Samurai

P.S. And this, folks, is my naginata: "Smurfslayer."

At 4:52 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

I don't consider Live Journal to be serious enough to be on the Black List. 90% of the postings are teen angst. I wouldn't put someone's My Space on their either. If you read the press concerning it's acquistion by Movable Type you will see that most people consider it to be a blogging ghetto and quite trivial. I have to draw the line somewhere and that's where I draw it. For now, I wouldn't do Yahoo Groups or Google Groups either.

At 6:16 PM, Blogger Gyrobo said...

You know, I keep reading comments saying that this site is a parody by a right winger. True Blue is an actual liberal, right? I get so confused...

And what does everyone think of the all-new Colbert Report?!?

At 8:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Gyrobo,

This site is a parody, as we can see when Flypaper revealed herself to be ageist ("teen angst"). No good liberal would ever be ageist.


--Next to Last Samurai

At 9:34 PM, Blogger fatman said...

Actually, Alashiya, I think you're wrong there. This is just the sort of snobbish, elitest ka-ka we've been getting from lib-excuse me-"progressives" for years. The "We're smarter and more enlightened than you so we should decide everything for you, even down to what blogging platform you should use" chain of reasoning. It's understandable though; after all those years of lib-excuse me AGAIN-"progressive" indoctrination, it's a wonder True Blue can string together a coherent sentence.

Still, all is not lost. I've communicated with Darth Rove (the only GOOD Sith Lord) and he's helping me formulate a plan to woo True Blue away from the Dark Side. Now, if I can just lure her into the back of my Expedition...

At 10:02 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

I have nothing against teens but will must protect the sanctity of the Black List.

I do not consider myself a liberal as I'm not sure that I've earned that label. True liberals are people like Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and especially Barbara Boxer. I'd love to be mentioned in the same sentence as these heros but as said above don't think I've earned it--yet.

I think that taxes on the rich are far too low and that our government is failing the majority of our peoples and that it needs to step up and provide a lot more services--especially to people of color.

I love the fact that celebrities decide to get involved and help people instead of tooling around in yatchs. They are wonderful people and give back to the people who love them.

I think Bush has ruined this country and especially our relations with longterm friends like France. I love the environment and think we should protect it at all costs. I love the UN--we created it!--and that we need to support it if we want it to succeed. I love unions.

If all of this makes me a liberal, so be it--I don't believe in labels--I just call it being a realist.

I understand that a lot of people have trouble with a womyn having political views and thus I get called a "parody" or a "little girl." So be it, if you can't take issue with my issues (and who can?) then by all means attack me since you've got nothing else to say.

At 10:40 PM, Blogger fatman said...

Oh I don't think you're a little girl, True Blue. At least I hope not; I'm sure there are laws against engaging minors in the sort of things I have in mind, even in Topanga Canyon, California. I just think you're immature, naive and horribly misguided. And I want to bring you back from the Dark Side, or at least,as Howard Dean might put it, teach you how to play "hide-the-salami."

At 12:40 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who the HELL writes like this except an effing redneck?

"I think taxes are too low."

Does any one of you brain dead right wingers see through this?

Fatman? I just assume you got beat up so much by your family that you are just looking for someone smaller to kick around.

The rest of you: congratulations on using the internet. You are as smart as I was as a toddler. Please stop falling for this b.s.

At 2:35 AM, Blogger fatman said...

who cares?!, you're projecting your own childhood again. Which means that you're taking memories of your childhood and assuming that everybody else lived like that as well. Either that, or you've got gas from that last helping of refried beans.

As for your question "Does any one of you brain dead right wingers see through this?", what's it to you? Speaking for myself only, I come here because I enjoy it. I have fun here tweaking True Blue's nose. Getting into a flame war with you is just a bonus.

At 6:13 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I come here because I enjoy parody, and to DEFEND THE HONOR OF LIVE JOURNAL!

How many Smurfs have you killed today? However many, please go kill one more.

Behold my naginata, "Smurfslayer"!

--Next to Last Samurai


At 7:51 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

"...taxes too low".

Who writes like this? Try John Kerry. There is not one good Democrat (me included) who doesn't believe that we must raise taxes on the wealthy to get ourselves out of the financial bind that the Republicans have put us in by their enourmous upper income tax cuts of late.


At 8:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen Sister

We have to be fair, RAISE TAXES ON EVERYONE.



Elect Ted Kennedy

Change from a Republic to a Socialist Democracy.

Repeal the 2nd Amendment


At 9:40 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

Poor people don't make enough money to pay taxes. Raise their salaries up to what wealthy people make and they'd gladly pay their share.

We certainly don't have to "get rid of private property" but we do have to do something about the fact that the vast majority of our citizens have so little of it.

Federal spending does need to go up. But if we weren't in Iraq and didn't screw up the levees in New Orleans then there would be a lot less money wasted. Plus, money given in entitlements (welfare, etc.) isn't really spent since we are giving it to people who really need it and who will be spending it right away.

At 1:08 PM, Blogger Wanderlust said...



I am from the New Orleans area.

Be careful about how, and to whom, you point the finger of blame for the levee problems there.

You might discover that the US Army Corps of Engineers has culpability in this matter, one that took place in 1994.

Read all about this situation here, complete with links to news articles and court filings on the subject.

Now. WHO was President in 1994?

I know you were but a wee babe back then, but I'm sure you can go figure it out.

Let me give you a hint: you know the "hide the salami" game dear fatman wants to play with you? Well, the President of the United States, in 1994, was playing those games with a cigar, and the mouth of his favorite intern, while the US Army Corps of Engineers accepted work on the 17th Street Canal Levee (the new one, you know, the one that got knocked over, and flooded New Orleans, two days AFTER the storm) that the contractor who performed the work reported was substandard, due to inadequate foundation preparation and structure engineering design issues.

I know this quantity of deduction and logical thinking is probably a bit greater than your liberal arts education has prepared you for, so I suggest keeping a good quantity of your favorite alcoholic beverage handy, for when your brain explodes from overtaxing its capabilities.

At 6:38 PM, Blogger Gyrobo said...

You know what I think caused the levees to break? Magic. That's the only possible explanation.

Either that, or, you know, nature.

At 10:09 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

As I remember Clinton was having a tough time with the Republican dominated Congress. Do you remember that? Does the name Newt mean anything?

As far as I'm concerned the "contract with America" was a promise to drownd as many people of color which they certainy tried.

At 12:27 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As far as I'm concerned the "contract with America" was a promise to drownd as many people of color which they certainy tried"

And? There are some that would call that a good start.

At 3:07 AM, Blogger fatman said...

Actually, True Blue honey, Clinton wasn't having problems with a Republican Congress at the time. The Voter Revolt of '94 that put the Republicans in power (for the first time in forty years) didn't take place until November of that year. And the new Republican dominated Congress wasn't sworn in until January, 1995. And even then, the Dummycrats still held virtually unchecked power in Louisiana.

But enough of this. You seem to be a little stressed out these days, True Blue. And sweetie, I know just the thing for that: a nice, long bubble bath in my heated jacuzzi (set on low, of course; wouldn't want to lose you in the bubbles), followed by a long, sensual massage in a room filled with scented candles. I'll have you purring by the time I'm done.

At 3:10 AM, Blogger fatman said...

wanderlust, that link you provided isn't working. I get a "Page not found" message when I click on it.

At 8:57 AM, Blogger Wanderlust said...

The link should be:

Corp of Engineers Told Levee "Weak" In 1994

btw, wanna flip a coin for BlueBabe's charms? All that kittylickin' has to be good for something...

/perverse laughter

At 5:33 PM, Blogger fatman said...

Sing it with me, wanderlust:

"Oh, you take the high road,
and I'll take the low road,
and I'll get to Scotland afore ye..."

/lascivious leer

At 6:30 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

And Bush has been in office for one and 1/2 terms and does nothing but cut the funding for things like this while diverting money to an illegal Mideast war.

Perhaps it was one of the bombs that he and his Haliburton people have been building that was used to blow up the levee (alleged).

At 7:16 PM, Blogger Gyrobo said...

I think the main point here isn't that the levees broke, but that FEMA's response was so incompetent that it borders on criminal.

And the fault for that lies with the federal government, with both the Republicans who nominated such incompetent cronies, and with the Democrats who allowed them to be so easily confirmed.

The robot senses corruption...

At 11:13 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

The fault lies with giving tax breaks for the super wealthy so that there was not the money to maintain them.

Tax break = levee break.

At 12:00 AM, Blogger fatman said...

True Blue, my little love puppy:

I'd be careful what I say on the subject of leevee breaks if I were you. wanderlust really doesn't have a sense of humor on the subject and he's forgotten more about it than you or I will ever know.

One thing I DO know is that since Bush took office, Louisiana has gotten more money for Corp of Engineer projects (1.9 BILLION dollars) than any other state (California, with seven times the population, got less than 1.4 billion dollars). If some of that money had been diverted away from Sen. Mary Landrieu's (D-LA) pet projects and used to reinforce the leevees, maybe New Orleans wouldn't have flooded.

But enough of this mind-wearying political debate. I just bought a case of jasmine-scented candles (for atmosphere), plus a few plain white ones. The white ones are for us to drip hot candle wax on each other. After the jacuzzi and massage, of course. When are you coming over?

At 12:03 AM, Blogger fatman said...

Before you come over though, you'd better put up a new post. It could take a few days to work out all the kinks (leers lasciviously). Besides, this thread has wandered so far off topic it's practically in another country.

At 8:31 PM, Blogger Gyrobo said...

Yeah, what does Mayor Sam have to do with levee construction? New post! New post! New post!

--==/ So sayeth the robot \==--

At 9:31 PM, Blogger Gyrobo said...


My Congressman finally gets off his pork-laden laurels and does something important!

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