Thursday, October 06, 2005

Child Abuse Caught on Camera


There is so much wrong with this photo I don't know where to begin. Most importantly is the the subtle message is that womyn need to be responsible for child rearing else abusive situations like this one will result. I wouldn't be surprised if the intent of this photo is to scare womyn away from allowing their significant others (at least those who are in heteronormative relationships) to take care of the children, even for a little while.

For those of you who are less tolerant of alternative lifestyles, I would like to note that you would never see this type of child abuse in a lesbian family.

I'd also like to note that this shirt is so demeaning that it shouldn't even be worn by an adult. I believe in free speech but not if it is offensive, sexist or perpetuates violence towards womyn. This should be against the law.

19 Comments:

At 2:11 PM, Anonymous Murqtaad said...

I'm with you, blue. I'm all for free speech as long as I agree with it.

 
At 3:52 PM, Blogger fatman said...

I'm with you too, True Blue. I don't like beer.

 
At 4:35 PM, Blogger Chris said...

True Blue,
I have to disagree with you.

"For those of you who are less tolerant of alternative lifestyles, I would like to note that you would never see this type of child abuse in a lesbian family.

I'd also like to note that this shirt is so demeaning that it shouldn't even be worn by an adult. I believe in free speech but not if it is offensive, sexist or perpetuates violence towards womyn. This should be against the law."

First, such a generalization is questionable. If a mother is determined enough to dress her toddler in such a shirt, what sense does it make to assume that a lesbian mother would not? Your statement is illogical. I know lesbians who would most definitely be exceptions to your "rule."

Second, how is this child abuse?

Recently, Southwest Airlines kicked a women off of a flight for wearing a shirt that depicted Bush and his administration with "Meet the Fuckers" below them.

Finally, how can you claim to support free speech but with a disclaimer? That doesn't make sense. Consider this quote attributed to Voltaire, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

It's fine to disagree with someone, but how can you say they cannot say it? People will be offended by just about anything. Consider Bill Bennett's recent comments equating crime with race. Should he have said it? No, it was inappropriate and untrue. Did he have the right to? You betcha.

Peace,
Chris

"I wish the world was run by love, and absolutely nothing more."

 
At 8:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well first of all, Bravo! to Southwest Airlines. There has to be a limit to what we have to endure from those woMEN.

And as for those lesbians...let them do the lickalotapus conventions...if that is what they want, so be it. As long as they do not try to have children. There is no reason for a same sex couple to EVER have kids.

So the whole T-shirt arguement is moot anyway.

You barking moonbat, blue...

 
At 9:11 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

It's child abuse because the child is wearing a hateful and sexist shirt.

There are always disclaimers on free speech. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded movie house. You can't say the word "bomb" on an airplane, you can't make a threat on someone's life. Those are all limitations. Similarly, you shouldn't be able to say anything sexist, racist, regionalist, ageist, etc.

If the framers of our constitution had been anything other than weathly white males you can bet those limitations would have been in the bill of rights.

 
At 6:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If the framers of our constitution had been anything other than weathly white males you can bet those limitations would have been in the bill of rights."

Thank God they were, and thank God they didn't.

You barking moonbat.

 
At 9:41 AM, Anonymous Murqtaad said...

Chris,

Whats a "lesbian family"? Sounds a lil freaky to me.

 
At 11:03 AM, Blogger Calamari said...

Lots of mothers subscribe to the practice that small quantities of beer (a good source of carbohydrates and vitamins) are good for the baby's health while nursing. Giving small quantities of beer to babies and children is common practice in many cultures and is seen as a positive thing. Perhaps the parents of the child were simply advocting what is seen as good parenting with a humorous T-shirt (taste notwithstanding).

Maybe it is you who should be more tolerant of their alternative lifestyle.

And as to abuse in lesbian families. I have seen both physical and mental abuse in several lesbian families or long term relationships first hand. Women, and lesbians, are no more or less likely to abuse their parners or children than any other population, in my experience.

And as to the T-shirt promoting violence towards women, that's a big stretch.

 
At 11:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

That shirt was surely made in some sweatshop in Vietnam where they don't pay union wages or even belong to a union!

 
At 6:25 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

You are almost certainly right on that one. Shame!

 
At 6:30 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Calamari: We both know that the t-shirt is not meant as a compliment for womyn and to be given in small quantities. It is offensive.

I'd love to see the statistics on child abuse. I've never seen a lesbian couple on Cops.

 
At 7:45 AM, Blogger Calamari said...

I know the shirt is not intended as a compliment towards anyone, I never implied that it was. I implied that it might reflect (rather crudely) a legitimate lifestlye choice. It is offensive to you, to most people, it is probably just stupid. I don't care it offends you, it certainly isn't in violation of any imaginable community standard of obscenity. Feel free to dislike it, but it is certainly protected speech to wear dumb shirts.

I'm not going to dig up statistics on lesbian or single mother child abuse. I didn't claim any statistics in my comment, I'm speaking as someone who has been involved in many queer communities and who has seen that queer relationships tend to mirror straight relationships in almost every respect, including negative ones.

I've known a lot of straight families where the only dispensers of physical violence, abuse or discipline are women. I have a hard time imagining that there is something genetically hardwired into lesbians that makes them respect children more than their straight female counterparts.

And of course, this little chat about the potential for lesbian families to be abusive hinges on your desire to cast putting a child in a stupid T-shirt as abuse, which by any legal or community standard it would not be considered to be. I respect your right to make that claim, as ridiculous as it is. Part of your 1st Amendment right is the right to say things that make no sense or that reflect highly illogical, subjective personal viewpoints, and I fully support you in exercising that right.

 
At 7:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes I wish I was as lost in the head as blue. What a wonderful world it must be to not have to face reality.

 
At 11:07 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Idealism does not = delusion.

Idealism = hope, beauty, the future.

 
At 10:46 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The future is full of hate, death and distruction. Turn to the last chapter of The Book and you'll find out that you're barking up the wrong tree. You should be preaching rather than protesting.

 
At 10:48 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops...that would be "destruction".

 
At 8:37 PM, Blogger Cleetus said...

whuts wrong with titties and beer?

 
At 10:15 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Alcoholism is a disease and should not be made light of.

Sexism = hatred, and young children should not be wearing shirts with sexist statements.

There are so many other positive things to put on a shirt of a young person like "question authority".

 
At 4:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

why don't you go write a letter to one of your fat lesbian friends and let the world be? shirts don't rape womEn, stupid jerks rape womEn. get over it, it is funny to 80% of people so shut up you cow

 

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