Monday, September 05, 2005

Blue Flypaper's Wonderful Labor Day!

Well, I had the most wonderful Labor Day and got to participate in the local Labor Coalition march for solidarity. While many of you were sitting around eating bio-engineered dead animals cooked on a grill, I had raw vegetables and spring water while marching to make this country better. What I don't understand, is why not just double the minimum wage? The workers would pay more taxes and buy more things so it would be a wash. I guess the problem with it is that these workers would then be able to afford an education and see how much they are being exploited since our capitalistic system requires a form of slavery called "entry level" or "low-end" jobs.


At 6:37 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah yes. The good old days of marches, protests and picket lines. Of smashed windows, busted heads and slashed tires. Arson, vandalism and late night death threats on the phone. Those were the days.

BTW true blue, after a day of raw veggies, did you warn everybody to stay upwind of you? Oh wait! You're a vegan. Everybody already knows. (And if they don't, it sure won't take long for them to find out.)

At 8:00 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

You are a rude man!

At 10:28 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

glad you had a nice day off on labor day. you know what i was doing ? thats right WORKING! i don't have a luxury of having a cush job with holidays off.

At 10:30 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

YOu need to join a union. Perhaps once you cease being exploited you won't have such a chip on your shoulder.

At 11:29 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I think it's about time there was a blog that cared about the oppressed. I hope True Blue will speak a word on the most truly oppressed and marginalized among us: us female samurai! When you think "samurai," do you think of a woman? No, you think of some guy--some GUY--waving a katana! We're tired of being invisible and oppressed and we hope True Blue will speak up for us.

--Next to Last Samurai

At 3:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think that's rude, you should've known me in my good old, bone breaking union days. After a hard day of pounding scabs (that's what we called people who crossed picket lines to work), we'd cap it off by getting drunk and singing a rousing chorus of "Hail the B****** King of England."

At 3:36 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Unions are what made this country. Remember that it was Union soldiers that fought the slave-owning South in the Civil War.

At 4:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Unions are what made this country. Remember that it was Union soldiers that fought the slave-owning South in the Civil War."



At 8:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

uh the Union Soldiers and a Labor Union are to totally different things there slappy. And I can't join a union, i would lose my job. unions are not permitted in the company i work for.

And there are not many opportunitys for work in my area so i can't lose my job.

At 9:23 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

They are different in a being the same think kind of way.

At 10:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'm gonna lodge a complaint with the UNION!"

-quote from the weird security guy in the movie, "Mannequin" (one of my favorite movies, back when Kim Cattrall was pretty)

At 10:29 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

All womyn are beautiful!

At 11:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

true blue said:

"All womyn are beautiful!"

You've obviously never met any of my ex-es. Some of them were so bad, the only way I could go for a walk with them was to put a leash on them.

At 9:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

fatman, you assuming you are the poster with the same nick as on Wizbang? If so, I post there as Wanderlust.

and I am the first to tell you, that there are women who are downright UGLY, as well as men, and the girl who runs this blog will prove herself only if she dates one of those male dregs...otherwise, she's a relationship chickenhawk.

let's see what she does.

p.s.: this blog is so can't find humor like this in the wild anymore...fresh, virginal, and absolutely clueless :)))

At 9:30 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

First off, this is not a chat room for right wing kooks, go to or whever it is what you folks meet up.

Second, I will not be forced into a discussion about my personal life and certainly won't be forced into a discussion about heteronormative relationships.

At 4:00 PM, Blogger fatman said...

anonymous @ 9:09 AM said:

"fatman, you assuming you are the poster with the same nic as on Wizbang? If so, I post there as Wanderlust."

Ahhh, my fame preceeds me. Yup, it's me, Wanderlust. Sallying forth to do battle with the Blue Meanie (literally) of liberalism.

Though I must admit, if it weren't for True Blue, I probably never would have started my own blog to combat the great unwashed masses of the left. It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it.

At 6:26 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

cool...isn't it fun to hang out in the gutter? sometimes this site is so funny, I have to be careful to not be ingesting any food or liquid when I visit, for fear of spewing hysterically.

btw notice that the BlueBabe hasn't taken up the challenge? toldya she was a relationship chickenhawk...(laughing)

At 6:59 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Please refrain from sexist terminology when on this blog else it offend my regular readers. While we are on the subject of free speech there can also be no racist, ageist, regionalist, nationalist or similarly offensive speech here other.

Remember that the purpose of this blog is the free exchange (subject above) of liberal ideas and to laude great liberal thinkers. See our A-List on the home page for some of the incredible people we've honored.

At 7:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, Blue dear, it could be worse:

* you could be a woman living in Saudi Arabia, where you are not permitted to drive, or be unescorted while out in public

* you could be living in the palestinian territories, where your womb is regarded by the PA and Hamas as a living munitions factory

* you could be living in European countries like Germany, France, and Britain, where taxes are much higher than in the US, inflation is higher, jobless rates are far higher, and your country routinely does business with regimes that want to annihilate your culture and way of life

* you could be a Christian living in Muslim lands, such as Egypt, where Christians are routinely deprived of freedoms that you take for granted (such as freedom of speech, and freedom of religious expression)

Shall I go on?

If my little tease to you about your being a relationship chickenhawk is oppression, and calling you a "babe" is sexist, and you dedicate your blog to "great liberal thinkers", then tell me something: why does religious persecution in muslim lands go unnoticed by the likes of Amnesty International and other NGO's, and why does your vaunted ACLU fight against Christian prayer in US public schools (of any kind) but remains silent when Muslim groups fight to have their prayer times allowed and upheld in school? Why?

Is asking Why? oppressing you? Is pointing out the value of the freedoms you take for granted oppressing you?


At 8:01 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

1. We cannot judge other cultures through our biased Western eyes.

2. Western societies have invaded, inslaved, and attacked these cultures so it isn't surprising there are some aspects that we don't agree with. You cannot judge the acts of victims when you are an oppressor. (I thought everyone knew this.)

3. Considering what we do to womyn and minorities in this country, we are not in a position to criticize anyone else.

4. The ACLU is only thing keeping Bush from using the Patriot Act to disband the Democratic Party alleging (falsely!) that it promotes terrorism. The order to do so is supposedly awaiting Cheny's go-ahead.

So what if taxes are higher in Europe. Look at what they do with it: great health care, great food, fantastic old buildings, beautiful rivers, no bio-engineered food,no guns, poetry, a respect of socialism, bistros, street musicians, mimes, great welfare benefits, amazing movies, etc. We could have all of these, wouldn't that be awesome!

And before you do the "if you love Europe so much why not just move there," no I'm not going to move there. I want to make America more like Europe (king of like Berkeley or Santa Monica) and we could do that by raising taxes on the superwealthy, giving free healthcare to everyone, breaking up big monopolistic companies, improving education for everyone, encouraging people to speak two or three languages, making college free for all womyn and minorities (to balance out the oppression that we/they have faced),adding more liberal arts and cultural education into schools and less math(!), adding a VAT tax to eliminate homeless and poverty, rehabilitating legal challenged people instead of calling them criminals and locking them up,bulding subways/metros in every major city, respecting cultures that are different than ours, and getting rid of fatty foods, would all be a good start. Now how can any of this be bad?

At 12:32 AM, Blogger fatman said...

Re: true blue's comment(9/7/2005 @ 8:01 PM)

And I'll bet you want all this done before lunch, or afternoon tea at the latest. And you might actually get people to go along if you threatened to keep eating raw veggies and stop taking your anti-flatulent meds.

At 9:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"making college free for all womyn and minorities (to balance out the oppression that we/they have faced),adding more liberal arts and cultural education into schools and less math"

First off, i know many young people my age who are not of ethnic background who can't afford to go to college and end up working dead-end jobs, most likely for the rest of their lives. why don't you want to help them too?

Most of my friends are white, and they don't have any desire to oppress anyone. You are a racist, sexist bitch.

if someone is not of ethnic descent or a women then you think they are a piece of shit. well i gotta tell you, you are the piece of shit. If you were on fire i wouldn't piss on you to put out the flames you bigot.

At 9:19 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

It is called affirmative action and it is one small step that we can do to correct hundreds of years of oppression and repression. There are of course many many more things that we need to do to make up for the horrible things that our white male dominated society has done. Reparations is a good start.

I certainly believe that young white males as your friends (assuming that they are not as crude as you) also deserve more than what this government is giving them. They, as everyone in this country, deserves free healthcare, government sponsored 401ks (whether or not they are able to work), and so much more.

I understand your anger but it is misdirected at me. Instead focus it at our government that is stealing from you to pad the pockets of rich Republicans in Houston.

At 10:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am just as mad as those assholes as i am at you. Your ideas for "fixing" america are idiotic.

This country needs less of this moronic "lets save everyone from themsleves" stupidity and start holding people accountable for thier actions.

Make the rich give thier fair share. but people shouldn't be given special treatment just because they are of a different race or creed or gender.

"God made all men equal"
Don't give me all the feminist shit either. What that means is that everyone has the same rights and should be held to the same standard as everyone else.

Now there are certain exceptions: those who are born with mental deficiencys, those who are paralyzed and otherwise unable to work without REASONABLE accomidations.

THAT is the direction our country should be headed.

Like i said many times before, if you don't like it go somewhere else. If you believe that america is about forcing you ideals on everyone else then you are no better than those assholes in the republican party or the democratic party. GO AWAY YOU NAZI BASTARDS !!!!

At 10:16 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Personal responsibility is all fine and good unless it falls 100% on the individual--particularly if this individual has been a victim themselves. Look at those beautiful African cultures and how everone took care of eachother instead of leaving it to the individual. Because of this greater good concept Africa is the beautiful place that it is today.

At 10:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Have you ever been to africa ? have you ever seen the starvation and disease for yourself first hand? if not then please shut up and stop waxing elegant about a festering cesspool of human suffering.

At 9:30 AM, Blogger True Blue said...

Africa is a perfect example of what the West can do when it chooses to RAPE a continent. Those poor loving people and their noble cultures never saw it coming when Western socities decided to invade and strip them of everything. It is sooooo sad.

At 8:05 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i guess they don't teach history classes in california. The west did not "RAPE" the african nations as you say (assuming you are talking about slavery) the peoples of africa willing sold members of other tribes during various tribal wars who were captured and already slaves to thier conquerers, to the whites to bring to the new world. So if you want to start pointing fingers maybe you should check your facts to find out who, exactely you should be pointing to.

keep this up and you might just have to change your name to Micheal Moore.

At 8:35 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Africa was one big melting pot of different peoples that loved and respected eachother. Then the colonial powers, including the US, cut up the continent into arbitrary countries. Before this the words "country," "nationalism," and "border excursion" didn't even exist in the Swahili language. After the West did that, all Hell broke loose. We bear 100% responsiblity for it all and should be throwing as much money at the problem that we created as is necessary to solve. Probably millions and trillions of dollars.

At 8:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So we should be spending our money to fix what a bunch of dumbfucks who have been dead for 200 years did? And i think you might want to check into that a little more, the us didn't even attempt to become an imperial power until late in the 19th century, long after africa was established into countries.

At 9:08 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

War of 1812 was fought over America's goal of annexing Canada. I'd call that Imperialistic. Let's also not forget America's slave trade which preceeded that.

Let's move this tread to the new post. I can't manage comments spread over all of the different postings.


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