Monday, July 25, 2005

Welcome To BlueFlypaper

This site is dedicated to celebrating the blue interests of this great blue state (California). The members of Blue Flypaper are made up of members of lovingly progressive people and we have a particularly strong perspective of what is good (liberalism) and bad (conservatism). We have come together to support blue (i.e., Democratic) causes and to do everything we can to stop Republicans from achieving their hateful goals! Most importantly, we respect the fact that you are entitled to our opinion.

The Blue Flypaper Team

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At 1:16 AM, Blogger John Gaskell said...

Although I consider myself a democrat, after viewing your site I am hiding my head in shame for fear of being associated with your brown nosing and overall horrible writing.

I don't salute you.

Oh, one more thing.

You've been farked.

At 12:51 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

You are not a Democrat. Democrats don't say mean things, Republicans do! As for being farked, I have since learned that this was done by your fellow meannies at Independent Sources or Non-Independent Sources as I like to call them (or more accurately just plain "jerks").

At 10:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amazing how you can preach to each person what they do and do not believe...since this gentleman does not agree with you, he couldn't possibly be a democRAT.

Amazing the level of hypocrisy you exhibit. What happened to the "big tent" that you people are suppose to have?

Moonbat. Sorry, barking moonbat.

At 4:55 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

The tent is indeed big, in fact big enough that Republikkkans sometimes try to slip in and pretend to be all cool and stuff like a Democrat. Then they show their true colors by being mean jerks--just like Karl Rove.

It's easy to trip up the faux-Dems, just ask them if they feel like invading a peaceful country like Iraq, if they say yes or hesistate, then they are definitely conservative jerks.

Another test, ask them if the government had the ability to give every person in the country (man, womyn, persons of young-age, non-Americans, etc.) $100,000 for no other reason that because we can. A liberal would say yes, think of all the cool stuff people could buy.

Republicans would start citing all sorts of right wing economic mumbo jumbo about purchasing power, inflation, stagflation, work incentives, etc. etc, which is just their greedy way of saying that they want to keep the common person (man and womny) down.

At 8:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"cool and stuff like a Democrat"

No such thing. Most democrats, at least the ones that have a brain, are not the least bit afraid to call to the carpet the ones like you that have no real purpose in life other than trying to show their ass.

As for giving everyone 100k, there is no point or purpose in that at all. That simply shows that you have no clue how the real world works, and also gives a clue that you have no desire to work for a living. Everyone owes you something, right?

Get a clue.

Moonbat. Sorry, barking moonbat.

At 10:58 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

If the US stopped invading countries and applied a fair tax on to the wealthy we could indeed do exactly that.

At 8:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, "blue" what would you consider to be a fair tax? Flat? Progressive? None at all?

You want to cure some of the ills in this nation? Get rid of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Cut the salaries of our elected officials and make them part time. Quit giving people who are NOT willing to work social services. Allow for those making the payments in this nation more incentives to save and invest.

Whats you plan, moonbat?

At 8:53 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Poor people already pay disporportionate taxes. I'm sure you know that prices are higher in the ghetto. The difference what they pay to shop in poor areas and what it costs to buy the same thing in a "wealty" area is basically a poor tax.

Second, poor people pay a disportionately higher percentage of their incomes on things housing and clothing. If they make $1,000/month in income and pay $500/month in rent, they are paying 50% to house themselves. A wealthy person might pay just 10%. (It is even a more notable difference if the poor person is a single mother of 5 with no education or skills of any kind and no contact with any of the fathers or perhaps even knowing who they all are).

And it goes on and on. What we need to do is have everyone pay "fair" taxes. For poor people, that would be zero (because they are already paying so much). For wealthy people, it should be enough so that they get to the same percentages as poor people. That'd probably be low at low income levels but on a marginal rate getting up to say 90% or so. Even then they are way ahead of our nation's poor on the backs of whom they made their money.

By the way, I still think the government should give Netflix to every citizen as a way to deter crime. When you look at what it costs to house an inmate for a year versus $14.95 month to give them unlimited DVD rentals it should be a pretty easy choice for society to make.

At 5:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really have no clue how the world works, do you?

The poor pay NO taxes. In fact, they have what they call the Earned Income Tax Credit, and they get not only what they pay in back, but a healthy chunk besides.

The wealthy are never going to pay more in taxes than they already do. There are loopholes out there that allow for them to keep most of the wealth THEY HAVE EARNED themselves.

The middle class are the ones that get hurt by taxes. People like me that work three jobs to keep everything going.

Try working sometime before you go spouting off about who should pay what in taxes. I was liberal like you once. Then I started working.


At 9:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Moonie? Mooooooooooooooonie??

At 12:48 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

You didn't read my post and certainly don't understand how the "poor" world works. The poor pay "taxes" in the form of less choices, less goods & services, and more hours that they must work to make the same amount of money as an educated or skilled person. These taxes when added up are certainly more than a wealthy person's "income" tax. Not to be rude, but if you took Econ in college you'd understand this.

At 1:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You didn't read my post and certainly don't understand how the "poor" world works."

How much experience did you have with the "poor" world? It was the world that I grew up in, and I think I have a very good basis to speak from.

"The poor pay "taxes" in the form of less choices, less goods & services, and more hours that they must work to make the same amount of money as an educated or skilled person."

This is a pile of bullshit. Those are not in any way, shape, or form a tax. It is simply a matter of not having or taking the opportunity as it comes along. Those that are willing can always find a way. It is people like you that do their best to coddle them...and that only keeps them down.

"These taxes when added up are certainly more than a wealthy person's "income" tax. Not to be rude, but if you took Econ in college you'd understand this."

I find you exceptionally rude and very uneducated when it comes to how things work in the real world, not in college. If you would pull your head out of your fanny and look around, you can see the main barrier to most things in this world IS education. If you give these people a hand up instead of a hand out, you will get a lot further.

You really are a barking moonbat. Keep up the good work.

At 9:44 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Of course college is different than the real world. The real world has poor people (lots of them) and people of color (lots of them). College has very few of either. University professors do their best to incorporate as much liberalism as they can (thank Goddess) but the lack of financial diversity is a tough one to overcome. And please don't tell me about financial aid, that helps such a small percentage. I'm talking about the people who the government didn't give enough money to so that they had enough motivation to study.

Another factor is the experiences that we get from things like reading magazines, watching TV, traveling and so forth. Since poor people have none of these we need society to provide them to them. In other words, until the federal government gets off its butt and starts giving poor folks things like TV Guide subscriptions, People Magazine, TV sets, DVD players, Netflix subscriptions, and vacations--then we are not going close the financial divide that is killing this country.

If you think that I'm pampering the poor then just remember that rich people have ALL of the above and more. I'm just leveling the playing field.

At 10:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Moonie, you are absolutely a joke. I have never in my life seen or read anything that was funnier than that.

As I have stated to you before, come out into the sunshine. You can breathe this air, too.

There is just sooooo much wrong with that last post that you put up, I am not even sure where to begin.

It is NOT the govts responsibility to provide all of those things that you have listed. It is up to the individual. Those are not rights in the USA...they are "extras" that you get by working hard. So many people, especially liberals, get confused with these issues. Driving is not a right, it is a privilege. Health care is not a right, it is a privilege. An education is not a right, it is a privilege.

All of these things are things you have to work for and work to keep. How old are you, really?


At 9:02 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

We agree more than we disagree.

Driving is a privilege not a right, but one needs that privilege to drive to work and be off of welfare.

Education is a privilege not a right, but one needs that privilege to get good jobs and work one out of poverty.

Health care also a privilege and also something that one needs if they are going to be able to remain healthy enough to be employed.

So while all of these are indeed privileges, they are required if we want to avoid being a nation of poor, unemployed people.

All I did was suggest adding a few things to the list. These are similar to the "life experience" credit that some online colleges are giving.

We build roads for people to drive on, we build parks for people to enjoy, why not give the same treatment to things that might really help our underprivileged? What's wrong with that?

At 12:21 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because none of that shit is that important.


At 5:27 PM, Blogger True Blue said...

Health care not important? Next thing you'll say is that self-actualization isn't as important as food or shelter.

At 9:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

True Blue said...
Health care not important? Next thing you'll say is that self-actualization isn't as important as food or shelter.

5:27 PM

You got it, babe...

You barking moonbat!


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